Mini-editorial: 'Reopening' has become a political issue

AlwaysWrite

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Democrats and their friends in the fake-news lamestream media are focused on the concept that an “early” reopening of America (and its economy) is a major mistake, They claim it places economics over health and endangering everyone, and President Trump is being portrayed as insensitive and greedy.

Forgetting the obvious political vituperative in the message, what specifically would need to happen for anti-Trumpers to feel “comfortable” opening up the American economy?

What events, occurrences and other things would need to happen? Or perhaps, which political leaders’ statements would be credible enough for them? Then again, in their hatred for Trump, likely nothing would satisfy them.

It seems like feelings about reopening our economy are politically motivated, both in the public and the media. It's as if Democrats and liberals are hoping to see the U.S. economy moribund until November, when a post-Trump Democratic leadership would signal the OK to reopen.
 

Djarum300

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Everything is political and makes no sense.

Democrats are all about the right to personal privacy but aren't for the right to have a firearm. The Republicans are just as bad.
 

Djarum300

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I haven't seen that. The point I'm making is that conservative meant strict interpretation of the Constitution and progressive meant loose interpretation.

Now it's about what agenda each party wants to latch onto.
 

Scolai

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Forgetting the obvious political vituperative in the message, what specifically would need to happen for anti-Trumpers to feel “comfortable” opening up the American economy?

What events, occurrences and other things would need to happen? Or perhaps, which political leaders’ statements would be credible enough for them? Then again, in their hatred for Trump, likely nothing would satisfy them.
The answer to this question is absurdly simple: the only thing that will make them feel safe enough to end the lockdown is the end of the Trump Presidency in 2021.

The BIGGEST reason I can devise for the duration of the lockdown is that the Democrats can push for an all mail-in election in November. Mail-in ballots are the easiest to manipulate - from fraudulent votes being cast by dead people and illegal voters to 'losing' ballots from highly-Republican areas of purple states. Hell, there were three mail crates full of mail-in votes recently found in Wisconsin from the 2019 primary election.

If Democrats get their wish for an all mail-in balloting process, they will literally steal this election from the voters.

I have said elsewhere many times (even before the COVID-19 pandemic) - the 2020 presidential election is going to be a catastrophe no matter how it plays out. If (when) Trump wins, the Democrats are going to lose their collective minds. Their hyperbolic reaction to the loss will make Antifa riots look like playtime at Barney's Playhouse. If Biden (or whomever the Democrat nominee is) wins, the Republicans are going to swear up and down sideways that the election was rigged. A Red vs Blue Civil War will be the logical outcome, since we've already seen (courtesy of Governor Blackface Northam in VA) the abuses Democrats foist onto the electorate when they have a majority legislature and the executive branch. The III%ers and 2A advocates will turn DC into a war zone. The military will balk when the National Guard is called in to defend the city.

That's my worst-case scenario outlook on it. I'm not encouraged by current politics that things will actually go more smoothly than that.
 

WAMO

Spanking His Monkey
TRUMP ALREADY BELIEVES IN MAIL IN BALLOTS. EVEN THOUGH HE COMPLAINED ABOUT, HE DID IT.
 

Djarum300

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My mother always believed, God rest her soul, that we are headed to a civil war among the classes and the middle class will be caught in the middle (pun intended) and will be the ultimate losers.
 

AlwaysWrite

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The answer to this question is absurdly simple: the only thing that will make them feel safe enough to end the lockdown is the end of the Trump Presidency in 2021.
... and until then, snowflakes will be snowflakes, haters will be haters, and hypocrites will be hypocrities.

... and even longer, after Trump is re-elected in November.
 

AlwaysWrite

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My mother always believed, God rest her soul, that we are headed to a civil war among the classes and the middle class will be caught in the middle (pun intended) and will be the ultimate losers.
... and in that scenario, how could the lower class ever win?
 

Greg T.

The Jizz Slinger
... and in that scenario, how could the lower class ever win?
We have class discord now. Sometimes it flares, but for the most part everyone continues on. If it ever comes down to class wars we're pretty much all screwed even though the upper class will always be the victors.
 

Djarum300

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... but shouldn't both parties "latch onto" agendas that are good for the country?
Not necessarily. Agendas are far too individualistic and narrow.

For example, the democrats have taken on the "agenda" for inclusion to the point it is exclusionary. An ideology of inclusion and fairness would not dismiss based on majority or assumed privlege. The agenda isn't the same as the ideology. When every party takes up more and more agendas, the ideology is lost.
 

Djarum300

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We have class discord now. Sometimes it flares, but for the most part everyone continues on. If it ever comes down to class wars we're pretty much all screwed even though the upper class will always be the victors.
The democrats are the party of the have nots and the republican party is the party of the haves.
 

9andaWiggle

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The democrats are the party of the have nots and the republican party is the party of the haves.
I just had this thought pop into my head; is this alignment due to ideological thinking differences? Look at the response to Covid. Are Democrats viewed as "have nots" because they tend to take a stance that life > resources? Dem led areas have been quicker to lockdown more harshly and longer to consider reopening. Saving just one life is worth total economic collapse and ruin to them.

On the flip side, Republicans (often considered the "haves") appear to value resources over life. The view is "there will be deaths, but we must maintain resources so those that survive will have the means to do so and be prosperous in the future".

If my thoughts above are true (in most cases), then the Republican model more closely matches the rules of nature. The strong survive and control access to resources, the weak are weeded out and the species (or even groups within the species) grows stronger and thrives. Admittedly it does seem a cruel system, but it's how our world was created (or has evolved), and these rules of nature apply to ALL earthly organisms, not just humans.
 

REVerse °

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Everyone here have an ID? I do.

Wouldn't that be good enough to vote?

Oh wait.. That’s racist.

Continue.
 
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