Bernie Sanders Speaks

Good Times Good Times

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http://www.thenation.com/article/bernie-sanders-speaks/

Small excerpt I found interesting:

The Nation: As long as we’re talking about the evolution of public policy, let’s talk about the evolution of a word: socialism. You appeared on ABC’s This Week and, when you were asked whether a socialist can be elected president, you did not blink; you talked about socialism in positive, detailed terms. I don’t believe a presidential candidate has ever done that on a Sunday-morning show.


Sanders:
Mitch McConnell, the Republican leader in the Senate, often criticizes President Obama, incorrectly, for trying to push “European-style socialism,” and McConnell says the American people don’t want it. First of all, of course, Obama is not trying to push European-style socialism. Second of all, I happen to believe that, if the American people understood the significant accomplishments that have taken place under social-democratic governments, democratic-socialist governments, labor governments throughout Europe, they would be shocked to know about those accomplishments. One of the goals of this campaign is to advance that understanding…. How many Americans know that in virtually every European country, when you have a baby, you get guaranteed time off and, depending on the country, significant financial benefits as well. Do the American people know that? I doubt it. Do the American people even know that we’re the only major Western industrialized country that doesn’t guarantee healthcare for all? Most people don’t know that. Do the American people know that in many countries throughout Europe, public colleges and universities are either tuition-free or very inexpensive?

I have always believed that the countries in Scandinavia have not gotten the kind of honest recognition they deserve for the extraordinary achievements they have made…. The Danish ambassador, whom I talked to a couple of years ago, said to me that in Denmark it is very, very hard to be poor; you really have to literally want to be outside of the system. Well, that’s pretty good. In Denmark, all of their kids can go to college; not only do they go for free, they actually get stipends. Healthcare is, of course, a right for all people. They have a very strong childcare system, which to me is very important. Their retirement system is very strong. They are very active in trying to protect their environment…. And, by the way, the voter turnout in those countries is much higher; in Denmark, in the last election, it was over 80 percent. Political consciousness is much higher than it is in the United States. It’s a more vibrant democracy in many respects. So why would I not defend that? Do they think I’m afraid of the word? I’m not afraid of the word.
 

Good Times Good Times

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This also: Sanders: I did vote against the Patriot Act. I said at the time that it gave the government far too much power to spy on innocent Americans, and I believe I’ve been proven right about that. What frustrates me is this false choice that says the United States of America cannot pursue terrorists and protect people from harm while still respecting the Constitution and civil liberties. I didn’t believe that was the case in 2001, and I do not believe that is the case now. So I’ve raised these issues, and I will continue to raise them. And one other thing: I believe it’s important—vitally important—to recognize that it isn’t only what the federal government does that should concern us. We have to recognize that corporations collect huge amounts of data on us. There is no question in my mind that technology is outpacing public policy in this area, and I do not think we should be casual about this or say that it’s something we should let the corporations figure out. We should all be talking about this—about how we’re going to maintain our privacy rights in very rapidly changing times.
 

9andaWiggle

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Good points. There are a few things that are definitely out of sync in our society. Health care costs, education costs, in many areas basic housing costs... and of course, compensation is extremely lopsided. It can't stay like this forever, at some point a BIG adjustment will come (I thought 2008 might trigger it, but it didn't) and it won't be pretty.

But as the media keeps telling us, don't worry about the elephant in the room, let's stay focused on abortion, gay marriage, racism, guns, etc...
 

AlwaysWrite

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Good points. There are a few things that are definitely out of sync in our society. Health care costs, education costs, in many areas basic housing costs... and of course, compensation is extremely lopsided. It can't stay like this forever, at some point a BIG adjustment will come (I thought 2008 might trigger it, but it didn't) and it won't be pretty.

But as the media keeps telling us, don't worry about the elephant in the room, let's stay focused on abortion, gay marriage, racism, guns, etc...
Dear 9andaWiggle:

You keep making good points of your own. Thanks.
 

Djarum300

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Yet, 1 in 10 swedes have health insurance.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...818408-9aa0-11e4-a7ee-526210d665b4_story.html

"These countries that do so well in life-satisfaction surveys also record the highest consumption of antidepressants in the world, and despite their reputation for gender equality, they have the highest rates of violence against women in Europe."

http://www.thelocal.se/20150127/swedens-health-care-is-a-shame-to-the-country

"That Sweden no longer keeps up with those countries is largely due to its inability to reduce its patient waiting times, which are some of the worst in Europe, as the latest edition of the Euro Health Consumer Index (EHCI) revealed in Brussels on Monday."
 
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