Seriously, can either Trump or Hillary unite the country?

[AlwaysWrite]

Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton both claim that they can unite the country and its citizens, but they are just whistling past the graveyard (so to speak) because, in actuality, NEITHER can accomplish nationwide unity, and everyone should realize that.

Trump uniting the nation? Seriously? How about Hillary? Any logical-thinking person can always HOPE, but everyone should KNOW better.

 

[Good Times Good Times]

I think this is one of your first premises I've agreed with. I agree, neither Trump nor Hillary will unite this country during their term.

 

[Greg T.]

This country is going to take DECADES to reunite what Bam Bam has divided.

 

[livespive]

The country has never been "united".

This country is going to take DECADES to reunite what Bam Bam has divided.

 

[REVerse °]

http://www.infowars.com/dead-people...re-being-registered-to-vote-all-over-america/

 

[WAMO]

DEAD PEOPLE AND ILLEGALS BEING ALLOWED TO VOTE, SOUNDS UNITED TO ME.

 

[AlwaysWrite]

The country has never been "united".

... but then again, it has never been as divided as it has under Barack Hussein Obama.

 

[Good Times Good Times]

... but then again, it has never been as divided as it has under Barack Hussein Obama.

Uh, the Civil War was quite a bit more divided.

 

[Greg T.]

Uh, the Civil War was quite a bit more divided.

But don't forget, it was the democrats that were hell bent on keeping slavery alive, and the republicans who set them free.

 

[Good Times Good Times]

But don't forget, it was the democrats that were hell bent on keeping slavery alive, and the republicans who set them free.

Yes, I would have been a republican in those days. You'd all call me a damn Yankee.

 

[9andaWiggle]

Speaking of those damn yankees... I'm still wondering why those righteous yanks stopped at just destroying the South's economic engine (ending slavery) but did not immediately legislate all races to be treated equal. Why were slaves and women not immediately given the vote and equality then instead of another 100 years later? I mean, why would those wonderful yankees, who fought and died to free the slaves solely out of their superior moral obligation to love and respect all people, fail to immediately lay the foundation and set the rules for equal treatment of all races/genders of people?

Unless that is not really what they were fighting for...

As you can see, it's not just a black/white divide, there is still a north/south divide as well.

 

[Greg T.]

Speaking of those damn yankees... I'm still wondering why those righteous yanks stopped at just destroying the South's economic engine (ending slavery) but did not immediately legislate all races to be treated equal. Why were slaves and women not immediately given the vote and equality then instead of another 100 years later? I mean, why would those wonderful yankees, who fought and died to free the slaves solely out of their superior moral obligation to love and respect all people, fail to immediately lay the foundation and set the rules for equal treatment of all races/genders of people?

Unless that is not really what they were fighting for...

As you can see, it's not just a black/white divide, there is still a north/south divide as well.

Those issues were trivial at the time as the matter at hand was to either keep the union or just a group of sovereign states. The war started because of the difference between the slavery states and the free states, but not BECAUSE of slavery. The fight was for control of the country between the free states and the slavery states. Obviously the free states won and slavery was abolished in all states. Freeing the slaves was just a perk that came with the north winning.

 

[9andaWiggle]

Those issues were trivial at the time as the matter at hand was to either keep the union or just a group of sovereign states. The war started because of the difference between the slavery states and the free states, but not BECAUSE of slavery. The fight was for control of the country between the free states and the slavery states. Obviously the free states won and slavery was abolished in all states. Freeing the slaves was just a perk that came with the north winning.

All true. However, the north likes to label and shout down everyone in the south as racist, but they had the power to make all people equal in America 150 years ago and chose not to...

To livespive's point, our government (either side) has never appeared to be too keen on unity.

 

[Good Times Good Times]

As a history grad, I'd gladly go over this but it's hard on a cell (I'm not at work today). If we could do a Skype thing it would be easier Lolz

Greg did essentially hit on the point: we needed to have a "union" first. This is what aged Lincoln....

 

[Greg T.]

All true. However, the north likes to label and shout down everyone in the south as racist, but they had the power to make all people equal in America 150 years ago and chose not to...

To livespive's point, our government (either side) has never appeared to be too keen on unity.

Not really, 9~. It's not the north screaming racism. It's the liberals. There are millions and millions of us that are screaming for these people to shut the fuck up, mind their own business and start taking desensitization pills. I used to have a huge confederate flag as my background image on FB. I think it's absolute ridiculous how the liberals want to claim racism this, prejudice that, yada yada, when they themselves are the people who started the KKK.

 

[9andaWiggle]

Yoopers are different... I think ya'll were southerners that got lost and went too far north during the war!

 

[AlwaysWrite]

But don't forget, it was the democrats that were hell bent on keeping slavery alive, and the republicans who set them free.

... and it was the Democrats who were strongly pro-segregation -- in policies and deeds -- for about a century thereafter.

 

[AlwaysWrite]

To livespive's point, our government (either side) has never appeared to be too keen on unity.

... but how many presidents have been as strongly opposed to working with Congress as Barack Hussein Obama?

 

[Good Times Good Times]

... and it was the Democrats who were strongly pro-segregation -- in policies and deeds -- for about a century thereafter.

Yeah, and they were WRONG!

Also, it is the Republican Party today that wants to go back in time?

 

[Good Times Good Times]

Also, lol at liberals were the Klan