Never-Trump GOP's New Plan

AlwaysWrite

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To answer your question Bill, I think Trump is someone who cannot possibly defeat Clinton. There are R's who might, but not him. (Kasich comes to mind).
Dear bbfreeburn:

Keep in mind -- and you should know -- that on numerous occasions, in a number of forums, I have clearly stated that NEVER AGAIN WILL A U.S. PRESIDENT BE ELECTED UNDER THE REPUBLICAN BANNER.

That would obviously mean that, in my mind, no Republican can or will beat Hillary ... BUT if there actually is ANY Republican who has even a small chance to do so, it is The Donald.
 

Spider

Member
Dear bbfreeburn:

Keep in mind -- and you should know -- that on numerous occasions, in a number of forums, I have clearly stated that NEVER AGAIN WILL A U.S. PRESIDENT BE ELECTED UNDER THE REPUBLICAN BANNER.

That would obviously mean that, in my mind, no Republican can or will beat Hillary ... BUT if there actually is ANY Republican who has even a small chance to do so, it is The Donald.
Dear bbfreeburn:

Keep in mind -- and you should know -- that on numerous occasions, in a number of forums, I have clearly stated that NEVER AGAIN WILL A U.S. PRESIDENT BE ELECTED UNDER THE REPUBLICAN BANNER.

That would obviously mean that, in my mind, no Republican can or will beat Hillary ... BUT if there actually is ANY Republican who has even a small chance to do so, it is The Donald.




The Rep. party has become a regional party. Just like how Europe has changed, so shall we.
 

bbfreeburn

Active Member
Dear Greg T:

Kasich won only his home state in the GOP primary, so how could he be a significant factor in a general nationwide election?
Because he is about the only R who has shown a scrap of common sense, thus reducing his appeal to the mass Republican voter.
 

Greg T.

The Jizz Slinger
Because he is about the only R who has shown a scrap of common sense, thus reducing his appeal to the mass Republican voter.
Nope. He's not reducing his appeal to the republican voter. MOST of the republican voters, I believe, are voting in the same manner I do. We hate the conservatives a bit less than the liberals. I don't believe Kasich has the nads to face Iraq, Iran or Putin. his economic policy, well, who knows? I do know this; In order to fix our country we need GOBS of fucking money. Who best to fix our economy and run our government AND our country as a thriving business? Trump.
 

REVerse °

Addicted Member
At the rate of hatred for both candidates by voters from both parties and total disregard of established laws and amendments by the current administration- is it possible laws could be ignored (rewritten) and Obama be cleared for a third term acceptance?
 

MI2AZ

Active Member
Quote:
"Who best to fix our economy and run our government AND our country as a thriving business? Trump."

You do realize that Trump's business policy to make money is by screwing the little guy?
He threatens small businesses with litigation and refuses to pay them for work they do for him.
 

Greg T.

The Jizz Slinger
At the rate of hatred for both candidates by voters from both parties and total disregard of established laws and amendments by the current administration- is it possible laws could be ignored (rewritten) and Obama be cleared for a third term acceptance?
Laws? We have laws? I thought the FBI just chucked those out the window...
 

Greg T.

The Jizz Slinger
Quote:
"Who best to fix our economy and run our government AND our country as a thriving business? Trump."

You do realize that Trump's business policy to make money is by screwing the little guy?
He threatens small businesses with litigation and refuses to pay them for work they do for him.
You'll have to show me that. And if you're speaking of being in competition with, and enjoying a victory over your competitor, I commend him even more. I don't associate that with "screwing". And, that is EXACTLY what we need to do with all the countries that have been claiming victory over us for the past 50 years. We need to start winning. Winning isn't screwing. It's out-negotiating and manipulating them. It's a skill to make a business deal, come out ahead, and have everyone satisfied at the results. It's what he does and it's what WE need as a country.
 

AlwaysWrite

Addicted Member
I think he would have a very good chance of assembling a coalition of D's and R's and I's large enough to win. Just one man's opinion.
Dear bbfreeburn:

Thanks for sharing and stating your opinion(s). That's what discussion forums are for. Have a great weekend.
 

AlwaysWrite

Addicted Member
At the rate of hatred for both candidates by voters from both parties and total disregard of established laws and amendments by the current administration- is it possible laws could be ignored (rewritten) and Obama be cleared for a third term acceptance?
Dear REVerse:

Indeed, it's possible, and there are many Americans who would go along with such a happenstance.
 

MI2AZ

Active Member
You'll have to show me that. And if you're speaking of being in competition with, and enjoying a victory over your competitor, I commend him even more. I don't associate that with "screwing". And, that is EXACTLY what we need to do with all the countries that have been claiming victory over us for the past 50 years. We need to start winning. Winning isn't screwing. It's out-negotiating and manipulating them. It's a skill to make a business deal, come out ahead, and have everyone satisfied at the results. It's what he does and it's what WE need as a country.
LINK TO STORY ON USATODAY

During the Atlantic City casino boom in the 1980s, Philadelphia cabinet-builder Edward Friel Jr. landed a $400,000 contract to build the bases for slot machines, registration desks, bars and other cabinets at Harrah's at Trump Plaza.

The family cabinetry business, founded in the 1940s by Edward’s father, finished its work in 1984 and submitted its final bill to the general contractor for the Trump Organization, the resort’s builder.

Edward’s son, Paul, who was the firm’s accountant, still remembers the amount of that bill more than 30 years later: $83,600. The reason: the money never came. “That began the demise of the Edward J. Friel Company… which has been around since my grandfather,” he said.

Donald Trump often portrays himself as a savior of the working class who will "protect your job." But a USA TODAY NETWORK analysis found he has been involved in more than 3,500 lawsuits over the past three decades — and a large number of those involve ordinary Americans, like the Friels, who say Trump or his companies have refused to pay them.

At least 60 lawsuits, along with hundreds of liens, judgments, and other government filings reviewed by the USA TODAY NETWORK, document people who have accused Trump and his businesses of failing to pay them for their work. Among them: a dishwasher in Florida. A glass company in New Jersey. A carpet company. A plumber. Painters. Forty-eight waiters. Dozens of bartenders and other hourly workers at his resorts and clubs, coast to coast. Real estate brokers who sold his properties. And, ironically, several law firms that once represented him in these suits and others.

Trump’s companies have also been cited for 24 violations of the Fair Labor Standards Act since 2005 for failing to pay overtime or minimum wage, according to U.S. Department of Labor data. That includes 21 citations against the defunct Trump Plaza in Atlantic City and three against the also out-of-business Trump Mortgage LLC in New York. Both cases were resolved by the companies agreeing to pay back wages.

In addition to the lawsuits, the review found more than 200 mechanic’s liens — filed by contractors and employees against Trump, his companies or his properties claiming they were owed money for their work — since the 1980s. The liens range from a $75,000 claim by a Plainview, N.Y., air conditioning and heating company to a $1 million claim from the president of a New York City real estate banking firm. On just one project, Trump’s Taj Mahal casino in Atlantic City, records released by the New Jersey Casino Control Commission in 1990 show that at least 253 subcontractors weren’t paid in full or on time, including workers who installed walls, chandeliers and plumbing.

The actions in total paint a portrait of Trump’s sprawling organization frequently failing to pay small businesses and individuals, then sometimes tying them up in court and other negotiations for years. In some cases, the Trump teams financially overpower and outlast much smaller opponents, draining their resources. Some just give up the fight, or settle for less; some have ended up in bankruptcy or out of business altogether.
 

MI2AZ

Active Member
A major and perhaps final blow to the "Never Trump" movement: The Republican National Convention's 112-member Rules Committee rejected an "unbinding" proposal Thursday that would've allowed delegates bound to Donald Trump to use a "conscience clause" to dump Trump and choose another as the nominee. The voice vote was so one-sided that a tally wasn't even recorded, reports the Washington Post. The Hill reports there were only about a dozen supporters, and the chairman of Trump's campaign says they were "crushed." The vote followed one in favor of an amendment ensuring delegates are bound to primary and caucus results. "Never before have things looked so bleak for those looking to unseat the presumptive GOP nominee," observes Politico. "It's over, folks," says an Iowa delegate. "Let's get behind our nominee right now."
 
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