Another warm and fuzzy
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Scolai
Active Member
So... you don't mind killing someone, but you don't want to do it with the same weapon many criminals choose to employ against their victims.THE GUY THAT DID THE SHOOTING, LIED TO THE POLICE, TOLD 3 DIFFERENT STORIES AND LOOKS LIKE HE MAY HAVE SHOT 1 OF THEM IN THE BACK AS HE WAS RUNNING AWAY, OUTSIDE THE HOUSE. ONLY 2 WERE ARMED. 1 HAD A FIXED BLADE KNIFE (STEAK KNIFE MAYBE) AND 1 OF THEM HAD BRASSKNUCKLES (NOT MANY DEATHS BY THOSE). NEITHER HAD THE WEAPONS IN THEIR HANDS WHEN POLICE ARRIVED. POLICE FOUND THEM ON THEIR PERSON, NOT ON THE FLOOR OR IN THEIR HANDS. I DO NOT CONDONE ANY TYPE OF CRIMINAL ACTIVITY, PERIOD! AND MAYBE THE GUY SHOWING UP IN THE HALL WITH AN AR15 WAS ENOUGH TO MAKE THEM RUN AWAY. BUT...
I WOULD DO WHATEVER I COULD TO PROTECT MYSELF AND MY WIFE (IF I WERE MARRIED), SHORT OF SHOOTING ANYONE. I WOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM CHOCKING SOMEONE UNTIL I SAW THEM TAKE THEIR LAST BREATH OR TAKING THEIR GUN FROM THEM AND CAVING THEIR HEAD IN WITH IT. AND I WOULD NOT LOSE 1 SECOND OF SLEEP.
What is your hand-to-hand skillset? What kind of training do you have in empty-handed combat or CQC?
Or do you think that criminals will just lay down their weapons when you present yourself?
sevenpin63
Addicted Member
No you don't , but it sure helps.
You would choke someone but not shoot them?
Ok you choke you them while they stab you in the gut, me i won't give them the chance, one round and they are done. I won't miss, trust me. That's is one of the things i found I was very, very good at in the Army. They liked me very much.
Then you would die, because while you are choking the one, you might be getting stabbed and punched with brass knuckles.
Like Scolai said, if they are on your property you have a right to defend yourself. Even if outside of the house in some states.
Like Scolai said, if they are on your property you have a right to defend yourself. Even if outside of the house in some states.
THE GUY THAT DID THE SHOOTING, LIED TO THE POLICE, TOLD 3 DIFFERENT STORIES AND LOOKS LIKE HE MAY HAVE SHOT 1 OF THEM IN THE BACK AS HE WAS RUNNING AWAY, OUTSIDE THE HOUSE. ONLY 2 WERE ARMED. 1 HAD A FIXED BLADE KNIFE (STEAK KNIFE MAYBE) AND 1 OF THEM HAD BRASSKNUCKLES (NOT MANY DEATHS BY THOSE). NEITHER HAD THE WEAPONS IN THEIR HANDS WHEN POLICE ARRIVED. POLICE FOUND THEM ON THEIR PERSON, NOT ON THE FLOOR OR IN THEIR HANDS. I DO NOT CONDONE ANY TYPE OF CRIMINAL ACTIVITY, PERIOD! AND MAYBE THE GUY SHOWING UP IN THE HALL WITH AN AR15 WAS ENOUGH TO MAKE THEM RUN AWAY. BUT...
I WOULD DO WHATEVER I COULD TO PROTECT MYSELF AND MY WIFE (IF I WERE MARRIED
Greg T.
The Jizz Slinger
A little something to think about. You can't out-punch a bullet, and don't ever bring a knife to a gun fight.
You don't see a difference between an intruder breaking into someone's home, armed or not, and a trained police officer shooting an unarmed suspect?
There seems to be a growing belief that we no longer have the right to protect our own property. While I believe at basic level that money or goods aren't worth a life, I do however believe people in their own dwelling have the right to protect themselves. Even if someone is unarmed, you have no idea of their intent. Waiting to find out could cost you your life. Castle law exists for a reason.
NEVER SAID I WOULD NOT DISARM THEM. I DONT NEED TO HAVE A GUN TO FEEL SAFE. OUT OF ALL THE FOLKS IN THIS SITE, HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE HAD YOUR HOME INVADED WHILE YOU WERE THERE? HOW MANY OF YOU DIED OR KILLED THE PERP? I SAID IT BEFORE, NOONE KNOWS FOR SURE WHAT THEY WOULD DO WHEN FACED WITH TAKING A LIFE. WE ALL THINK WE WOULD DO IT, BUT YOU DONT KNOW. MOST BURGLARS ARNT KILLERS.
AND LIVE, THE SAME PERP BREAKS INTO YOUR HOUSE, GETS TO YOUR BEDROOM BEFORE YOU CAN REACT. HE POINTS THE GUN AT YOUR WIFE AND ASKS, DO YOU HAVE GUNS IN THE HOUSE? IF YOU SAY NO AND I FIND THEM, YOU DIE. IF YOU SAY YES, SHOW ME, I TAKE THEM AND LEAVE. WHAT WOULD YOU DO? WHAT WOULD ANY OF YOU DO?
AND LIVE, THE SAME PERP BREAKS INTO YOUR HOUSE, GETS TO YOUR BEDROOM BEFORE YOU CAN REACT. HE POINTS THE GUN AT YOUR WIFE AND ASKS, DO YOU HAVE GUNS IN THE HOUSE? IF YOU SAY NO AND I FIND THEM, YOU DIE. IF YOU SAY YES, SHOW ME, I TAKE THEM AND LEAVE. WHAT WOULD YOU DO? WHAT WOULD ANY OF YOU DO?
9andaWiggle
Addicted Member
I think differently about this. What does one have to do (the 99%, anyway) to get that money to purchase those goods? We have to trade parts of our lives to get them. I give up 40 hours of my life every week (sometimes more) to go somewhere I don't necessarily want to go and do things I don't necessarily enjoy doing in exchange for money to purchase goods.
So, a thief is not stealing just money or goods, they are stealing part of my life - time I can never get back. And for that reason, I have no use for thieves - only murderers, rapists, and child molesters are more deserving of eradication from civilized society.
AND THAT I AGREE WITH 9. I GREW UP WITH THE BELIEF THAT A LIAR AND A THIEF WERE THE WORST THAT A PERSON COULD BE. BUT TIMES ARE MUCH DIFFERENT NOW. THE MONATARY ISSUE HAS NOT BEEN BROUGHT UP UNTIL NOW. I TO HAVE WORKED HARD FOR WHAT I HAVE AND WOULD NOT WANT IT TO GO AWAY. BUT I WOULD MORE LIKE TO BE ALIVE TO REPLACE THE STUFF THAN BE DEAD.
Greg T.
The Jizz Slinger
Have you waited until you starved to death before you ate something? Have you waited until your car ran completely out of gas before you refilled? Do you carry a spare tire in your car. or will you wait until you need one and then call for help? I could go on but see no point.
AGAIN G, I DONT NEED A GUN TO FEEL SAFE. I AM NOT PARANOID ABOUT WHATS AROUND THE CORNER. I TOLD YOU GUYS I WEIGH 285, SO I HAVNT BEEN STUPID ENOUGH NOT TO EAT. I HAVE RUN OUT OF GAS AND IM NOT DEAD. I HAVE ALSO HAD A FLAT SPARE, YET, STILL ALIVE. IN THOSE 2 INSTANCES, ONSTAR WAS ON THE READY TO HELP ME OUT. AND THERE REALLY ISNT A GOOD POINT THERE BROTHER.
Greg T.
The Jizz Slinger
And yet, if all hell were to break loose the non-gun owners would expect protection. How about that..
sevenpin63
Addicted Member
WAMO, so you're a big guy.
So am I, but that is not going to stop some crazy perp. But that damn bullet sure will.
I am 6ft. and weigh 260 and I recently lost 38 LB.
So am I, but that is not going to stop some crazy perp. But that damn bullet sure will.
I am 6ft. and weigh 260 and I recently lost 38 LB.
Greg T.
The Jizz Slinger
Never gonna out-punch a bullet
Yeah but in the recent scenario it was 3 on one.
I'm a big guy too, but 3 on 1 in a confined space would be a problem......
Skinny twigs can move
I'm a big guy too, but 3 on 1 in a confined space would be a problem......
Skinny twigs can move