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AlwaysWrite

AlwaysWrite

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WAMO said:
I ASSUME THE SAME POLL AND SAME VOTERS WERE USED. BUT WHO KNOWS. I JUST FIGURE THAT WHEN POLLSTERS CONTACT SOMEONE WILLING TO PARTICIPATE, THEY WOULD TRY THEM AGAIN. BUT I AGREE, IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHICH SIDE YOU CHOOSE TO LISTEN TO.
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Dear WAMO:

The validity of polls is reflected by the fact that no poll showed that Trump was going to win in 2016, and if polls aren't correct on such a big topic, it's certainly likely and probable that they're going to be wrong a lot of other times.
 
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:Thumbsup: I AGREE. AS I SAID, WE ONLY PAY ATTENTION TO POLES THAT REFLECT WHAT WE WANT TO BELIEVE ANYWAY. WHETHER RIGHT OR WRONG.
 
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WAMO

Spanking His Monkey
IM NOT SURE ABOUT THAT REV. CONSTITUTION SAYS HOUSE HANDLES IMPEACHMENT PROCESS, SO HE HAS BEEN IMPEACHED. SENATE WILL VOTE WHETHER CHARGES ARE RIGHT OR WRONG. DOES NOT HAVE TO BE "HIGH CRIMES AND MISDEMEANORS". BRIBERY IS ALSO AN IMPEACHABLE ACT. ITS JUST LIKE BEING ARRESTED AND CHARGED WITH SOMETHING. NOW THE TRIAL BEGINS TO PROVE GUILT OR INNOCENTS. SO HE HAS BEEN IMPEACHED. SENATE WILL DECIDE IF HE STAYS OR GOES.
 
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WAMO said:
IM NOT SURE ABOUT THAT REV. CONSTITUTION SAYS HOUSE HANDLES IMPEACHMENT PROCESS, SO HE HAS BEEN IMPEACHED. SENATE WILL VOTE WHETHER CHARGES ARE RIGHT OR WRONG. DOES NOT HAVE TO BE "HIGH CRIMES AND MISDEMEANORS". BRIBERY IS ALSO AN IMPEACHABLE ACT. ITS JUST LIKE BEING ARRESTED AND CHARGED WITH SOMETHING. NOW THE TRIAL BEGINS TO PROVE GUILT OR INNOCENTS. SO HE HAS BEEN IMPEACHED. SENATE WILL DECIDE IF HE STAYS OR GOES.
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Nope. You're wrong.
 
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Spanking His Monkey
IMPEACHMENT CLAUSE IN THE U.S. CONSTIUTION EMPOWERS THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TO REMOVE THE PRESIDENT,VICE PRESIDENT OR OTHER CIVIL OFFICERS OF THE U.S. FROM THEIR OFFICE FOR COMMITTING OFFENSES LIKE TREASON, BRIBERY, OR OTHER HIGH CRIMES AND MISDEMEANORS. HOWEVER, THE POWER TO TRY ALL IMPEACHMENTS IS GRANTED TO THE U.S. SENATE. THIS CLAUSE IS REFERRED UNDER USCS CONST. ART. 2, & 4. THE PROVISIONS READ AS:

"THE PRESIDENT, VICE PRESIDENT AND ALL CIVIL OFFICERS OF THE UNITED STATES, SHALL BE REMOVED FROM OFFICE ON IMPEACHMENT FOR, AND CONVICTION OF, TREASON, BRIBERY, OR OTHER HIGH CRIMES AND MISDEMEANERS".

SO, HE HAS BEEN IMPEACHED BY THE HOUSE. IT IS NOW UP TO A SENATE TRIAL TO UPHOLD OR DENY THE IMPEACHMENT.
 
Greg T.

Greg T.

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WAMO said:
IMPEACHMENT CLAUSE IN THE U.S. CONSTIUTION EMPOWERS THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TO REMOVE THE PRESIDENT,VICE PRESIDENT OR OTHER CIVIL OFFICERS OF THE U.S. FROM THEIR OFFICE FOR COMMITTING OFFENSES LIKE TREASON, BRIBERY, OR OTHER HIGH CRIMES AND MISDEMEANORS. HOWEVER, THE POWER TO TRY ALL IMPEACHMENTS IS GRANTED TO THE U.S. SENATE. THIS CLAUSE IS REFERRED UNDER USCS CONST. ART. 2, & 4. THE PROVISIONS READ AS:

"THE PRESIDENT, VICE PRESIDENT AND ALL CIVIL OFFICERS OF THE UNITED STATES, SHALL BE REMOVED FROM OFFICE ON IMPEACHMENT FOR, AND CONVICTION OF, TREASON, BRIBERY, OR OTHER HIGH CRIMES AND MISDEMEANERS".

SO, HE HAS BEEN IMPEACHED BY THE HOUSE. IT IS NOW UP TO A SENATE TRIAL TO UPHOLD OR DENY THE IMPEACHMENT.
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No. Wrong. The house impeaches the president and sends the articles of impeachment to the senate, which is a suggestion to the senate, that the president be removed. The ONLY way the house can impeach is on high crimes and misdemeanors. This rag tag house has not even charged the p[resident with any crimes what so ever. Not only that, they have failed to submit the articles and charges to the senate. The president is not formally impeached until the paperwork is submitted. Pelosi CANNOT hold these papers with hopes she forces Mitch to comply with her demands. Doesn't work that way. By holding these papers and dictating how the senate will operate the trial, she is guilty of quid pro quo. Or, extortion. She needs to turn in the papers if she wants this impeachment process to be valid.
 
AlwaysWrite

AlwaysWrite

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WAMO said:
IMPEACHMENT CLAUSE IN THE U.S. CONSTIUTION EMPOWERS THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TO REMOVE THE PRESIDENT,VICE PRESIDENT OR OTHER CIVIL OFFICERS OF THE U.S. FROM THEIR OFFICE FOR COMMITTING OFFENSES LIKE TREASON, BRIBERY, OR OTHER HIGH CRIMES AND MISDEMEANORS.
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Dear WAMO:

As Greg clearly stated (in response to you), Trump has not been charged with ANY criminal conduct, let alone a "HIGH CRIME." And despite what you claim, the House DOES NOT have power "to remove the president ... from office." They have the power to RECOMMEND that the president be removed from office, but the president can only be removed AFTER a trial on the impeachment charges in the Senate.
 
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G SAID EXACTLY WHAT I SAID, JUST PHRASED IT IN A DIFFERENT MANNER. HOUSE HAS IMPEACHED TRUMP ON BRIBRY CHARGES. HE HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH BRIBERY. THE "QUOTE" I MADE IS FROM THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES. BRIBERY IS AN IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE UNDER THE CONSTITUTION.
 
Greg T.

Greg T.

The Jizz Slinger
WAMO said:
G SAID EXACTLY WHAT I SAID, JUST PHRASED IT IN A DIFFERENT MANNER. HOUSE HAS IMPEACHED TRUMP ON BRIBRY CHARGES. HE HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH BRIBERY. THE "QUOTE" I MADE IS FROM THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES. BRIBERY IS AN IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE UNDER THE CONSTITUTION.
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No, he hasn't. Where the hell did you get that? They stated the charges as Abuse of Power, and Obstruction of Congress. Neither of these charges are considered high crimes or misdemeanors. They have no case.
 
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Dear WAMO:

When you say things "in different manner", you aren't correct in some respects. And when you say that the House is empowered to remove the president from office, that is definitely incorrect. IF the House had that power, Trump would already be out (or on the way out) of office.
 
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G, BOTH OF THOSE ARE CONSIDERED "HIGH CRIMES AND MISDEMEANORS".
HIGH CRIMES AND MISDEMEANORS:
*ABUSE OF AUTHORITY (ABUSE OF POWER)
*REFUSAL TO OBEY A LAWFUL ORDER (NOT SHOWING AND TELLING HIS PEOPLE NOT TO SHOW - OBSTRUCTION)
BOTH CONSIDERED HIGH CRIMES AND MISDEMEANORS
 
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Spanking His Monkey
JUST READ ALSO THAT THE HOUSE COUNCEL SAYS TRUMP MAY BE "IMPEACHED" FOR THE SECOND TIME.
 
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Spanking His Monkey
DONALD J TRUMP IS IMPEACHED. THE SENATE WILL ONLY VOTE TO REMOVE HIM FROM OFFICE (GUILTY) OR IF HE IS TO REMAIN IN OFFICE (AQUITTED). BUT HE IS IMPEACHED.

"IMPEACHMENT IS THE ACT OF BRINGING CHARGES AGAINST THE PRESDENT BY THE U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. ONCE THOSE CHARGES - FORMALLY CALLED ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT - HAVE BEEN PASSED BY A MAJORITY VOTE IN THE HOUSE, THE PRESIDENT HAS BEEN IMPEACHED".

"BUT ONCE IMPEACHED, HE OR SHE MUST STAND TRIAL ON THOSE CHARGES IN THE SENATE. UNLESS AT 2/3 OF THE SENATE - 67 MEMEBERS - VOTE IN FAVOR OF CONVICTION, THE PRESIDENTIS AQUITTED".

SO AS OF RIGHT NOW, TRUMP IS IMPEACHED.
 
Greg T.

Greg T.

The Jizz Slinger
WAMO said:
DONALD J TRUMP IS IMPEACHED. THE SENATE WILL ONLY VOTE TO REMOVE HIM FROM OFFICE (GUILTY) OR IF HE IS TO REMAIN IN OFFICE (AQUITTED). BUT HE IS IMPEACHED.

"IMPEACHMENT IS THE ACT OF BRINGING CHARGES AGAINST THE PRESDENT BY THE U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. ONCE THOSE CHARGES - FORMALLY CALLED ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT - HAVE BEEN PASSED BY A MAJORITY VOTE IN THE HOUSE, THE PRESIDENT HAS BEEN IMPEACHED".

"BUT ONCE IMPEACHED, HE OR SHE MUST STAND TRIAL ON THOSE CHARGES IN THE SENATE. UNLESS AT 2/3 OF THE SENATE - 67 MEMEBERS - VOTE IN FAVOR OF CONVICTION, THE PRESIDENTIS AQUITTED".

SO AS OF RIGHT NOW, TRUMP IS IMPEACHED.
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Nope. Not until the papers are submitted to the senate. And, you're wrong. No crimes at all. None. Zero. Zip. Zilch. Can't impeach a president just because you disagree with his policies. And because there are no true crimes, Mitch has the option of dismissing the charges.
 
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Spanking His Monkey
WELL, CHARGES HAVE BEEN BROUGHT, SO HE IS IMPEACHED. THE CHARGES FILED AGAINST HIM ARE HIGH CRIMES UNDER THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION. THE ONLY PAPERS TURNED OVER TO THE SENATE ARE THE ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT. THE SENATE WILL DETERMINE IF HE STAYS OR IF HE GOES. AND YES, THE SENATE WILL VOTE AQUITTAL. BUT, TRUMP WILL BE LISTED AS AN IMPEACHED PRESIDENT, NO MATER THE RULING OF THE SENATE.
 
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