The elephant in the room; discussion

Greg T.

The Jizz Slinger
9, The answer to the school shootings is within the hearts of the kids in the school’s. Can they stop ostracizing those that are different. Can they go up to the goon/geek/nerd sitting by himself in the lunchroom or on the bus and say hello. Can they hear and more importantly, listen to all voices of all students It has to start with them. It ain’t going to be with the old farts that populate this site. They’ve too set in their ways and thinking. It will get better with the youth and their unbiased minds as long they use those brains before the adults around them jade yhem
Yup. It'll get better with youth. We see that nearly every day now when they shoot the fuck out of each other, or commit suicide cuz someone said BOO to them in the fucking hall. Yeah, the youth will fix it. You mean before or after they eat Tide and smoke some Off?
 

WAMO

Spanking His Monkey
I GUESS WE JUST GIVE UP THEN. THERE ARE NO ANSWERS. THE ADULTS WONT DO ANYTHING. THE KIDS CANT DO ANYTHING. ITS ALL OVER.
 

Scolai

Active Member
Answers to school shootings aren't simple, but everyone wants to put forth nothing but simple answers to such a complex problem.

The answer isn't asking kids to be nice to one another.
The answer isn't gun control.
The answer isn't arming teachers.

The problem is culture. The really big problem is that it literally took decades to create the culture that produces young people whose belief is that their only opportunity to matter is in destroying lives.

We have a culture that glorifies money.
We have a culture that glorifies fame (or infamy).
We have a culture that glorifies sexuality.
We have a culture that celebrates violence.
We have a culture that focuses on 'me first'.
We have a culture that denies the virtue of strong family bonds.
We have a culture that has abdicated responsibility for the self to outside entities (government, police, etc.)

That's not to say all of us are perpetuating the cultural issues listed above, but those who do are very vocal about it and have the backing of some very powerful entities (the media and entertainment).

Kids whose identities are formed within that culture seek to be accepted by it. When they cannot find their place in the culture that pervades their lives, they force the issue. The Va. Tech shooter wanted vengeance against a girl with whom he was infatuated (sexual failure) and then the infamy of killing a bunch of people on his way out (like his idols from Columbine). The Isla Vista shooter recorded his manifesto in which he complained about hating women and the pain of being a virgin at 22. The Parkland shooter was fascinated by violence. The Sandy Hook shooter had family issues and believed that society wanted him to conform to a set of values he didn't want to embrace.

The list goes on.

Nevertheless, until we can begin to reverse the perverted culture that plagues us all, we will continue to see the scourge of school shootings. The best we can do is to better prepare the first responders in these types of emergencies. The first responders, by the way, are not police, EMS, or SWAT. The true first responders are teachers and students. They need the training. When the average response time for police is 8 minutes, we need to make sure that those 8 minutes don't result in a massive body count.
 

WAMO

Spanking His Monkey
IF YOU TEACH THE STUDENTS HOW TO BE DEFENSIVE IN THESE SITUATIONS, YOU ARE ALSO TEACHING THE POTENTIAL BAD GUYS THE DEFENSIVE MODES YOUR TEACHING THE GOOD GUYS. THEY WILL KNOW WHAT TO LOOK FOR OR WHO TO GO AFTER FIRST.
 

Greg T.

The Jizz Slinger
IF YOU TEACH THE STUDENTS HOW TO BE DEFENSIVE IN THESE SITUATIONS, YOU ARE ALSO TEACHING THE POTENTIAL BAD GUYS THE DEFENSIVE MODES YOUR TEACHING THE GOOD GUYS. THEY WILL KNOW WHAT TO LOOK FOR OR WHO TO GO AFTER FIRST.
Yeah, you're right. We need to keep teaching kids to be pussies.
 

AlwaysWrite

Addicted Member
Yup. It'll get better with youth. We see that nearly every day now when they shoot the fuck out of each other, or commit suicide cuz someone said BOO to them in the fucking hall. Yeah, the youth will fix it. You mean before or after they eat Tide and smoke some Off?
... and then try to decide which rest room(s) they care to visit at any point in time.
 

WAMO

Spanking His Monkey
WOW! I DID NOT REALIZE THEY WERE BEING TAUGHT TO BE PUSSIES. THAT WOULD EXPLAIN THE BATHROOM SITUATION THOUGH.
 

AlwaysWrite

Addicted Member
Let's go back ... WAY, WAY BACK ... and ponder the question ...

When Cain slew Abel, what was to blame? Abel's brother or the World Club Association?
 

AlwaysWrite

Addicted Member
How about knives? It's a FACT that four times as many Americans die because of knives as compared to those who die because of guns.
 

9andaWiggle

Addicted Member
How about knives? It's a FACT that four times as many Americans die because of knives as compared to those who die because of guns.
Knives and cars (and apparently sticks) get a free pass. You can kill as many people as you want in a car covered with knives and nobody will say a thing. But shoot one kid in the eye with a Red Ryder...
 

Scolai

Active Member
IF YOU TEACH THE STUDENTS HOW TO BE DEFENSIVE IN THESE SITUATIONS, YOU ARE ALSO TEACHING THE POTENTIAL BAD GUYS THE DEFENSIVE MODES YOUR TEACHING THE GOOD GUYS. THEY WILL KNOW WHAT TO LOOK FOR OR WHO TO GO AFTER FIRST.
Gosh, you're right.

We should do nothing then, since that's worked so well in the past.

The left's answer to everything: government solutions. Fuck self-sufficiency.

For fuck's sake... :mad::Oo::Poop:
 

WAMO

Spanking His Monkey
IN THE PAST? I WAS IN SCHOOL IN THE PAST. DONT EVER REMEMBER 17 KIDS GUNNED DOWN. HERE IS THE FOR FUCKS SAKE MOMENT: GUN ADDICTS ARE TO BLAME FOR ALL THIS. THEY REFUSED TO LET ANYONE PUT RESTRICTIONS ON THEM. NOW LOOK WHERE WE ARE. ITS TO LATE NOW. THE ONLY THING THAT MAKES ANY SENSE, GIVE EVERYBODY GUNS.
 

Greg T.

The Jizz Slinger
IN THE PAST? I WAS IN SCHOOL IN THE PAST. DONT EVER REMEMBER 17 KIDS GUNNED DOWN. HERE IS THE FOR FUCKS SAKE MOMENT: GUN ADDICTS ARE TO BLAME FOR ALL THIS. THEY REFUSED TO LET ANYONE PUT RESTRICTIONS ON THEM. NOW LOOK WHERE WE ARE. ITS TO LATE NOW. THE ONLY THING THAT MAKES ANY SENSE, GIVE EVERYBODY GUNS.
Yup. Me too, and there were just as many guns then as now. So what has changed?
 
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